The role of preaching
One of the biggest converns I ponder on in regards to preaching is the role it's put in... frankly I look at how it seems to be considered the most important aspect of a service. Is this right? Although learning about God is important how does this fall into building each other up, or worship? Rarely would I consider it so. Most sermons I've heard over the years teach about God but never how to live in relationship with him... is this worship? I'm implying no.
I would suggest the most important part of church is to glorify God and worship him... now I don't think all "worship" as we see it in our churches (you know the band playign catchy new songs) is worship, it's a concert. When I suggest worship I mean true heart desired praise directed toward God. Secondary is to support and build up believers...
But it would appear in most cases the sermon (the pastor's monologue) is considered the most central part of a service, where we learn about God, but rarely interact with God. Why is this that in our churches today we have placed such central importance on the role of preaching in church? What if we attended a church service and there was no preaching... could we in our western form of Christianity survive? Would we complain because we didnt' hear the pastor's monologue? In reality what is the importance of preaching in a church?
I would suggest the most important part of church is to glorify God and worship him... now I don't think all "worship" as we see it in our churches (you know the band playign catchy new songs) is worship, it's a concert. When I suggest worship I mean true heart desired praise directed toward God. Secondary is to support and build up believers...
But it would appear in most cases the sermon (the pastor's monologue) is considered the most central part of a service, where we learn about God, but rarely interact with God. Why is this that in our churches today we have placed such central importance on the role of preaching in church? What if we attended a church service and there was no preaching... could we in our western form of Christianity survive? Would we complain because we didnt' hear the pastor's monologue? In reality what is the importance of preaching in a church?
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I follow you. The congregation I'm a part of sees education as the only form of spiritual formation. And, of course, education is in the form of a classroom with a "monologue." Service, prayer, none of that is viewed as a means to spiritual formation, only a sermon or teaching, in which the hope is that the mind will be transformed. I've been slowly trying to expand their (and my) thinking on this and view spritual formation beyond the 15 minute sermon -- as it is in our church -- and a lesson in Sunday School.
I haven't read Pagitt's book. I'll have to dig into that.
Krow, you might find it of interest to take a look at some of the patristic writings about church and "the mysteries". It really is a very different, beautiful, and often poetic view of what church and "worship" is all about.
Right off I find this link which could be interesting... maybe skim it and see: The Church and the divine Eucharist, according to St. Maximos the Confessor, a chapter from Metropolitan Hierotheos of Nafpaktos' book *The Mind of the Orthodox Church*. Orthodox frequently speak of the liturgy as the "worship of heaven" -- which is not to say that heaven is the subject of worship, but the form of the worship. We hold that we worship God not alone as humans in this present time, but in the eternal, and with the angels. I'm sure I'll have to say more about this when I continue my series of posts. It is one aspect of Orthodoxy about which I am not conflicted... whatever that means.
At any rate, for liturgical churches the sermon isn't the focus of the service, but the liturgical drama which turns our minds and hearts toward God. In fact, in some Orthodox Churches the priest won't give his homily (which can range anywhere from 15 minutes to 45 minutes depending on the priest) until after the service is all over. And it can be more of a "talk". Depending on the priest, it's sometimes a good thing that it comes afterwards. ;)
If one wants a look at what worship will be like in the Kingdom, he should check out the Apocalypse of St. John. There's some good worshippin' going on there.
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It seems to me that the problem is more a symptom of the way we approach "church" as a group. Many Christians consider themselves justified, not by faith, but by the very specific work of showing up to the Sunday service. They don't seem interested in putting more "God time" into their busy weeks. Is it any surprise, then, that pastors feel compelled to teach on the things of God that their parishioners should be gleaning from personal Bible study but don't make the time?
Not that I disagree with you. The sermon as the centerpiece of worship often takes away from worship. But when the sermon provides food for thought, it can transform worship. I can think of a few services where the Spirit moved only after the pastor set the right environment for it... and there should definitely still be a place for that kind of encouragement.
I agree those times can happen where it takes the sermon to set the tone for the worship. I've been there along side of you during some of those sermons in the past. I just consider on the most part for the church as a whole it detracts for worship since it's placed as the central part of a gathering.
The bottom line is this: the Lord Jesus said, "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth" (John 4:24). He proceded to tell the Samaritan woman that she worshipped "what she did not know..." (verse 22). After she proclaimed that she knew that Messiah was coming, the Lord proceded to give her a "monologue" on Who He was (is) so that she could worship in spirit and in truth! The point is that the sermon should be an important and central part of the service because it lets the people know who God is so that they can properly reverence and worship Him. The problem is that many sermons today are too topical and seeker-sensitive that they become monologues and chats that seek to become too relative rather than truth. Not very many Christians (and non) know very much truth about our Lord so they let the music and some of the lyrics guide and dictate our worship, rather than the truth of the Word where God speaks of Himself and what He wants us to believe. Doctrine is very important and should directly affect our worship so that we, as believers, can worship "what we know!" There are far too many false teachings floating around churches that since many sermons are quite weak, most believers aren't compelled to research and do diligent studying in order to test and see if the the "monologue" is truth or not. We tend to believe and accept what sounds and feels good and that often transfers into our worship. So as a result we worship out of feeling and emotion solely instead of our feelings and emotions about God being driven by the Word. With all that said, the sermon itself is worship! Please don't limit the term worship to music and singing. Worship is a lifestyle. We worship our great God when we preach and listen to sound doctrine that speaks of Him and what He wants us to believe which transfers into how He wants us to live for His glory!!!
In addition to what I've said before, it's important to note that the apostles, inspired by the Holy Spirit, placed great emphasis on the importance of studying and teaching sound doctrine. Not for head knowledge, but to give us a reason to know and fear our great and sovereign God and to edify & equip one another with the truth. Paul points out in 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus not only the role of ministry but the dire need to preach and teach the truth of God so that men and women can fear, worship, love and obey the Lord with all of their being - and then encourage other believers to do the same. There are even many warnings given by Paul, Peter, John, and even our Lord concerning false teachings and how the church should avoid them at all cost by submitting to the reading of Scripture and teaching of the Word. A believer can't truly worship God without the truth of who He is and learning of His majesty, holiness, sovereignty, righteousness, and on and on. But, like I mentioned before, most sermons are just monologues which seek to provide a "chat" or warm and cozy message that may highten a person's emotions, but spiritually can leave a person the same way they began, as babes - needing "milk, not solid food...unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child" (Hebrews 5:13). [see also Ephesians 4:14-16] Excuse me if I sound "preachy," it's just that in this day and age the preaching of the word of God has become shallow and merely a performance while the congregation is the audience giving their approval or disapproval of the message based on how it made them feel. This same criticism is aimed at the worship or music section of the service. We forget - God is the only audience and He watches our "performance" as we worship Him in spirit and truth, whether that be in song or sermon!
To Mr. Steven Smith...you are so correct, Sir. Preaching/speaching (Pagitt's term) is also worship because it is the act of proclaiming who God is. Perhaps this is why it is seen as such a central part if not just simply an important part of worship in many circles. God bless you, Steven and thank you for such a passionate response.
Steven,
Thank you for the wonderful comments! I could not agree with you more... worship is a lifestyle, and preaching should be a part of the worship. Well stated. More so this is wonderfully thought out, I'd love to hear more from you about this. Amen to those that need to preach the good news, not the relative wishy washy crap that comes from most pulpits. Bring on the doctrine and dogma, bring on the preaching... but not if it's a performance or some random chat of relativity... I strongly support the idea of not watering down the gospel.. bring it on full strenght! Sharing God's word is worship, the best kind of worship. But worship is with our entire life.
Sorry I'm rambling, just super inspired the comments :)
Thanks for the kind words, however it is the Lord Who receives the credit! All that I stated came from His word. Yes, we live in an age when preaching, or rather the role of pastor and teacher is wrapped up in a type of celebrity status - trying to win a popularity contest and have a name established rather than to preach the living Word about the living Lord with fear and trembling. The other motive behind good preaching should be because of the love of the sheep! It is all about a desparate concern and compassion for all whom the Lord as called - and even those who need the Lord and need to see His grace and mercy lived out -- even in preaching! As far as giving an oppourtunity for group interaction, that's not easy to pull off in a worship setting where things are (or should be) done in an orderly manner. Questions from the pews work best in a small group setting. I guess that's one of the drawbacks of attending a mega-church. When churches get too big (along with the pastor's ego) then there's no "real" worship or good, edifying communication among clergy and laypeople. But, even in a large congregation, the pastor should make himself available for interaction either by phone, e-mail, or office visit. I go to a large church - and I see the problem first hand. I love my pastor, but I can see where he can become too busy and elevated too high by members and visitors. Pastors must realize that the role of a shephered comes with great accountability and they must remember that they are sheep first, still in dire need of the Good Shepherd! If many of them realized this then they would preach and teach as they have been commanded to do, and not perform! Let me say this again for others reading your blog: The sermon is worship! It is not the preacher's moment to shine and inspire the people with clever phrases and cool topics while trying to make everything relative to today's living. You can make it relative, as long as you don't compromise the living Word! The Word is powerful enough that it doesn't need any pastoral "enhancements" to get the people's ears perched. Yes, I'm rambling, too. But, as you can tell, this is a passion of mine - that preachers and teachers communicate the Bible with integrity and fear and that church members would search the Scriptures to be certain that what they hear is truth (Acts 17:10-11). Grace and Peace!
Hey, Krow!
A pretty good example of good, expository preaching with modern-day relevance and a cool environment is Mars Hill Church in Seattle (I noticed you have Mark Driscoll mentioned in your bio). He's doing something very rare in these times yet should be the norm: He's actually preaching sermons on books of the Bible. Even his topical sermons are very Biblical. And his delivery is such that he passionately teaches and talks to his congregation from his heart. Very foundational! And all of their messages are free, downloadable mp3s - what a novel idea! The age range of their congregation is 18 - 34 or something like that. What a concept - young people actually learning sound doctrine and developing a healthy fear of God. I found this church through a friend about 2 years ago and visit their website frequently (I'm in Dallas, TX). Grace and Peace (again)!
You've addressed a concern I've had for quite sometime now Steve... the need for sound Biblical doctrine to be taught. What a marvelous idea... oooo...aaaa... I have begun to wonderful if it is becoming heresy to our societal church to preach real Biblical teachings. It sure feels like it. I for one crave this as do many others; to get beyond the fluff that has been taught for so long now and get into the actual Bible, the true Bible in an untwisted and manipulated way. Sometimes I wonder what if a church just had readings from the Bible with no preaching...
However we need to learn to read the Bible, I believe we are so out of tune with the beauty of it's words that we can not understand it, hence preaching (if preaching were to be done effectively). Now in raving about the need for sound Biblical preaching I should clarify that I don't believe it always (or in many cases should) be done as a public speach. I think there are other ways of delievery that can prove to be beneficial to learning. Very few are strictly audio learners, so very few learn in that capacity. Hence my discussions on the blog concerning methods/styles of preaching and my love for Doug Pagitt's book "Preaching Re-Imagined". I do think it can be done... strong Biblical doctrine being taught by forms other then "speaching".
P.S. Steve thanks for pointing out the sermons by Marc Driscoll in mp3 on the Mars Hill website.. mmm real teaching! Yes speaching, but this man is not afraid to boldly teach the gospel and other lessons God would have us learn. It's beauty in my ears and I've grown so much from his teaching.
Yes, there are other outlets for sound biblical teaching (print, web, multimedia, small group bible study, etc.) but the primary way is for the general gathering of the congregation on Sunday morning. The only drawback is that this has been done for hundreds of years and has become somewhat of a "routine" rather than a collective display of the eternal "relationship" believers have with the Father. Yes, there should be more consistent sound teaching and, as a result, there should be more authentic worship and greater edification among the sheep. I think that if we're not careful we can try too hard to come up with new and cool ways to have church to attract new people and keep the present ones instead of just be real and teach God's truth so that we long for "pure spiritual milk" (1 Peter 2:2) and grow up in the salvation which we have recieved. Don't get me wrong - I love cool and attractive stuff (I'm a graphic designer). But a line has to be drawn somewhere. When it comes to designing for churches and ministries, I can't start with what's cool and go from there and then later throw in some Bible. I have to start with the Truth. It's beneficial to be able to know sound doctrine and design from it. I hope that there are other Christian designers that do the same.
Hey, want some good sound, doctrine - on-line? Try www.carm.org. This site is very resourceful and quite sound. Lots of information on foundational Christian beliefs as well as false doctrines and how to properly refute them. You may want to bookmark it and visit often. Peace!
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Krow: Thanks for posting these thoughts. I'm about halfway through Doug's book (actually, about half way through all of Doug's books... tend to read 3 or 4 at once) and it is really challenging. Having been schooled in the traditional preaching style - where everything besides the sermon is "preliminaries" - and then having been through my "seeker-sensitive" phase, I long for the authenticity of what Doug speaks of in Preaching Re-Imagined and Church Re-Imagined. We're just launching a new worship community (in Edmonton, Alberta) and really seeking to work through what some of those concepts might look like in our setting.
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Or small parts of the bible like faith, grace, love and acceptance get left out. And "holiness" gets preached - or self righteous, judgemental behavious hidden under a pious title.
Maybe there's a flaw in our "one man leading the flock" method of church??? NOOOOO, couldn't be!
But, those attending the show on Sunday's are just as guilty. They're like the Israelites who wanted Moses to go talk to God for them.
The "faith" healers, "profits" (spelling intentional), evengelists etc. - rely on people not going to God themselves, and perpetuate the myth of them having special gifts and access to God.
And the people are happy, becuase in this they will bare no responsibility, will get an emotional high, and will feel good that they are Christians, because they've attended the show.
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